Comments on: A Load Of Bull http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/ Never give a save point an even break. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:43:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: KeyOfTwilight http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-23 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 08:48:35 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-23 =P i'm afraid that slow moving taurens are a figment of your imagination. They are in fact moving as fast as gnomes on ice. Nice description of the horde newbie area for the taurens though. Props for having the hearthstone idea... i can't recall how many times i've returned to the wrong place simply because i've forgotten to set my hearthstone. oh, and taurens are the natural predators of gnomes btw. =P i’m afraid that slow moving taurens are a figment of your imagination. They are in fact moving as fast as gnomes on ice.

Nice description of the horde newbie area for the taurens though. Props for having the hearthstone idea… i can’t recall how many times i’ve returned to the wrong place simply because i’ve forgotten to set my hearthstone.

oh, and taurens are the natural predators of gnomes btw.

]]> by: m.a. http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-22 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 08:03:53 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-22 It's not a problem of WoW, it's a general problem of online communities. WoWs problem seems just so much stronger because there are so much more people. But look at your average online forum (of decent size) and you will see the same socially inept behaviour all over. Perceived anonymity breeds bad behaviour. That has been a fact since before the Internet (man, even back in the day on small mailboxes with no more then ten users we had assholes spewing their mouth off). Which all is the reason why I'll become a millionaire as soon as I invent a way to punch people in the face over the internet. A MILLIONAIRE I SAY!!! MUAHAHAHA! It’s not a problem of WoW, it’s a general problem of online communities. WoWs problem seems just so much stronger because there are so much more people. But look at your average online forum (of decent size) and you will see the same socially inept behaviour all over. Perceived anonymity breeds bad behaviour. That has been a fact since before the Internet (man, even back in the day on small mailboxes with no more then ten users we had assholes spewing their mouth off).

Which all is the reason why I’ll become a millionaire as soon as I invent a way to punch people in the face over the internet. A MILLIONAIRE I SAY!!! MUAHAHAHA!

]]> by: Ripperjack http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-17 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:23:35 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-17 Yes, and that comment by Madjack sums up the typical attitude of your socially inept, girl fearing, non-self esteem player ganking, 13 year old, lives in my mothers basement, 22 hour per day playing, WoW nerd. <b>World of Warcraft's community SUCKS!!!</b> If the population was anything approaching "normal", then I would have stuck with the game longer, but after 2 years of playing with smacktards I would rather run over with my Jeep, than help with yet another raid on Molten Core, I've had enough. I need to talk with a "normal" human being, and not yet another night elf stripper mangina! Yes, and that comment by Madjack sums up the typical attitude of your socially inept, girl fearing, non-self esteem player ganking, 13 year old, lives in my mothers basement, 22 hour per day playing, WoW nerd.

World of Warcraft’s community SUCKS!!!

If the population was anything approaching “normal”, then I would have stuck with the game longer, but after 2 years of playing with smacktards I would rather run over with my Jeep, than help with yet another raid on Molten Core, I’ve had enough. I need to talk with a “normal” human being, and not yet another night elf stripper mangina!

]]> by: Madjack http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-16 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:25:43 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-16 All races run the same speed unless buffed. Dirty n00b critic~ All races run the same speed unless buffed. Dirty n00b critic~

]]> by: Mothlos http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-15 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:25:40 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-15 At some point you should really re-think the use of add-ons. It is a central design element of WoW that you can overcome the limitations of the default UI by using 3rd party add-ons. If you ever did play this game to the top you would find that certain add-ons are required to be part of player guilds. I played Horde as well, and I have to agree that the Tauren starting quests are some of the most immersive in the game. If you are going to be playing 2 characters, you really should put one on a PvP server. You will be griefed, but I think you would have some good things to say about PvP in the early levels and some excelent (if negative) things to say about PvP at the higher levels. At some point you should really re-think the use of add-ons. It is a central design element of WoW that you can overcome the limitations of the default UI by using 3rd party add-ons. If you ever did play this game to the top you would find that certain add-ons are required to be part of player guilds.

I played Horde as well, and I have to agree that the Tauren starting quests are some of the most immersive in the game.

If you are going to be playing 2 characters, you really should put one on a PvP server. You will be griefed, but I think you would have some good things to say about PvP in the early levels and some excelent (if negative) things to say about PvP at the higher levels.

]]> by: Pzychotix http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-11 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:42:38 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-11 "Teaming needs a better explanation in-game." You have a game manual. I think those are used for something. I don't know. "Taurens move slower than my XP bar does in CoH." They all move the same speed. It's just you. "Skill ‘upgrades’ are unclear– should they replace old versions of spells, or go aside them?" Skill upgrades always go alongside the old ones, unless the old one is completely obsolete. Essentially, if your new spell is a damage upgrade and costs the same as your old one, then it'll replace it, since there's no possible reason you could want to use your old one. But since in most cases, old spells cost less mana to use, people would want to have their old spells around for various reasons (i.e. faster casting times, less mana). Overall, your review is ok, but you come off as a noob. Not a newbie, but a noob. Honest. “Teaming needs a better explanation in-game.”

You have a game manual. I think those are used for something. I don’t know.

“Taurens move slower than my XP bar does in CoH.”

They all move the same speed. It’s just you.

“Skill ‘upgrades’ are unclear– should they replace old versions of spells, or go aside them?”

Skill upgrades always go alongside the old ones, unless the old one is completely obsolete. Essentially, if your new spell is a damage upgrade and costs the same as your old one, then it’ll replace it, since there’s no possible reason you could want to use your old one. But since in most cases, old spells cost less mana to use, people would want to have their old spells around for various reasons (i.e. faster casting times, less mana).

Overall, your review is ok, but you come off as a noob. Not a newbie, but a noob. Honest.

]]> by: Pete http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-10 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 04:33:42 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-10 Edit to my last comment.. the smaller guys feel faster, not slower... Edit to my last comment.. the smaller guys feel faster, not slower…

]]> by: Pete http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-9 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 04:32:27 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-9 Just wanted to say that I've enjoyed the updates thus far. I played WoW for about 7 months after release before I got burnt out and I had a good time with it during those months. As for the Tauren movement speed, I'm sure you're aware that it's actually the same as others (assuming no speed mods (wolf form or whatnot) are used). It just feels different since the Tauren characters are so much bigger than other races. You say you played EQ for a couple months... did you ever play a troll/ogre type and then switch to a gnome, or maybe even a drunk gnome? The smaller guys always feel alot slower although they aren't, and the drunk effect in EQ made it seem like you were wearing jet shoes. Just wanted to say that I’ve enjoyed the updates thus far. I played WoW for about 7 months after release before I got burnt out and I had a good time with it during those months. As for the Tauren movement speed, I’m sure you’re aware that it’s actually the same as others (assuming no speed mods (wolf form or whatnot) are used). It just feels different since the Tauren characters are so much bigger than other races. You say you played EQ for a couple months… did you ever play a troll/ogre type and then switch to a gnome, or maybe even a drunk gnome? The smaller guys always feel alot slower although they aren’t, and the drunk effect in EQ made it seem like you were wearing jet shoes.

]]> by: ANeM http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-8 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 04:09:00 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-8 Oddly enough Tauren run at the same speed as all other characters. However, due to their size they appear to run slower since they don't need to take as many steps to move the same distance as others.. Oh, that and the Tauren starting zone is much larger and wide open than any other starting zone. It is like a giant optical illusion in that things will seem so close until you spend 20 minutes running towards them and still aren't there yet. Mulgore was what really put me off from playing horde when I tried WoW. I realize that lorewise Mulgore is supposed to be big open plains, but to put starting characters in such a space twice as large as certain other starting areas with content that is only equal to those other areas. Its harsh, if not cruel, and all together sloppy design. Oddly enough Tauren run at the same speed as all other characters. However, due to their size they appear to run slower since they don’t need to take as many steps to move the same distance as others..
Oh, that and the Tauren starting zone is much larger and wide open than any other starting zone.
It is like a giant optical illusion in that things will seem so close until you spend 20 minutes running towards them and still aren’t there yet.
Mulgore was what really put me off from playing horde when I tried WoW. I realize that lorewise Mulgore is supposed to be big open plains, but to put starting characters in such a space twice as large as certain other starting areas with content that is only equal to those other areas. Its harsh, if not cruel, and all together sloppy design.

]]> by: Anthony http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-7 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:31:38 +0000 http://www.the-unbelievers.com/2006/08/06/a-load-of-bull/#comment-7 From my experience playing several Taurens, they only feel slower because they are much larger than the rest of the races. All races move at the same speed for game balance. That's why playing as a gnome can be interesting as you feel like your progress around the map is much faster, but it really isn't. You'll notice this more once you play with other races in your party. On a side note, once you have a level 20 hunter with the speed Aspect, all the other races feel slow. Probably why I tend to like Hunter, Shaman and Druid as they all have level 20 speed enhancers. Ghost wolf for Shaman and Cheetah for Druid, though they are outdoors only compared to the Hunter's anytime Aspect. From my experience playing several Taurens, they only feel slower because they are much larger than the rest of the races. All races move at the same speed for game balance. That’s why playing as a gnome can be interesting as you feel like your progress around the map is much faster, but it really isn’t. You’ll notice this more once you play with other races in your party.

On a side note, once you have a level 20 hunter with the speed Aspect, all the other races feel slow. Probably why I tend to like Hunter, Shaman and Druid as they all have level 20 speed enhancers. Ghost wolf for Shaman and Cheetah for Druid, though they are outdoors only compared to the Hunter’s anytime Aspect.

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